I don't know what to call these...In Search Of Archetypes? I'm trying to find concepts that click for me and, of course, having fun running out of points doing so. I'm trying to keep the points cut back to a minimum. One thing I'm running into in Theory Hammer, either I want the Assault Terminator Squad with at least seven bodies in it to back up foot Guards or the Guard are in Chimeras and don't need the cover of the Terminators. One thing hurting in the list building department: the HQ tax. Which means I want BT primary for foot lists (EC goes with the Guard blob for various reasons) and if I'm mechanizing the IG, then the EC is a waste of points.
Anyway, onto the lists:
Anyway, onto the lists:
This one has multiple variations, I think it is probably close to a "generic" list for my purposes
Reclusiarch in TDA [120]
EC-ATW [110]
Assault Terminators (6xTH/SS, 2xTLC) Furious Charge [344]
2x Dreadnoughts (Ass Can/HF/DCCW) [230]
2x Las/Plas (5/0, LC, Pg, Bolters)
3x LS-Typhoon [210]
CO Cmd Squad [50]
PLT Cmd Squad w/ Chimera [85]
2x Infantry Squad w/ Chimeras [210]
HWS (AC) [75]
Vendetta (HB) [140]
Hydra x2 [150]
Total: 1836
Again, short on points, but I'm not sure what force mix details I want to have. Las/Plas, CO Cmd & HWS(AC) are sitters, Hydras go where they seem useful, Assault Terms advance with Dreadnoughts, Chimera squads go to grab objectives. My issue with it, by making the BT the Primary Detachment the EC really has nothing to do since he can no longer use his Ld to get orders to the HWS (while acting as back row tarpitting unit). Pulling the EC and one Las/Plas while adding another minimum IG platoon in Chimeras and there is 80 points left over to spend around.
This one is fun, not a full list, but just an Allied detachment, haven't even really thought about how it would play, but I stole an idea from my IG skirmish platoon that I had thought of.
Reclusiarch, Bike, Artificer, SS, PAxe, Frag, Krak [173]
Techmarine, Servoharness, SS, 4xCombat Servitors, Frag, Krak [223]
Crusader Squad (10/10, Melta, BP/PAxe, rest BP/CCW) [280]
Bike Squad (5 Bikes, PW(?), Pg, Flamer, Krak [249]
Total: [925]
Techmarine & friends go with the Crusader Squad to cross the board playing KTA and generally messing about a bit. Same thing for the Reclusiarch's Biker Buddies. If you want fire support, look elsewhere, the purpose of this list is to simply get stuck in and have fun. Yes, I know the Techmarine isn't
Reclusiarch in TDA [120]
EC-ATW [110]
Assault Terminators (6xTH/SS, 2xTLC) Furious Charge [344]
2x Dreadnoughts (Ass Can/HF/DCCW) [230]
2x Las/Plas (5/0, LC, Pg, Bolters)
3x LS-Typhoon [210]
CO Cmd Squad [50]
PLT Cmd Squad w/ Chimera [85]
2x Infantry Squad w/ Chimeras [210]
HWS (AC) [75]
Vendetta (HB) [140]
Hydra x2 [150]
Total: 1836
Again, short on points, but I'm not sure what force mix details I want to have. Las/Plas, CO Cmd & HWS(AC) are sitters, Hydras go where they seem useful, Assault Terms advance with Dreadnoughts, Chimera squads go to grab objectives. My issue with it, by making the BT the Primary Detachment the EC really has nothing to do since he can no longer use his Ld to get orders to the HWS (while acting as back row tarpitting unit). Pulling the EC and one Las/Plas while adding another minimum IG platoon in Chimeras and there is 80 points left over to spend around.
This one is fun, not a full list, but just an Allied detachment, haven't even really thought about how it would play, but I stole an idea from my IG skirmish platoon that I had thought of.
Reclusiarch, Bike, Artificer, SS, PAxe, Frag, Krak [173]
Techmarine, Servoharness, SS, 4xCombat Servitors, Frag, Krak [223]
Crusader Squad (10/10, Melta, BP/PAxe, rest BP/CCW) [280]
Bike Squad (5 Bikes, PW(?), Pg, Flamer, Krak [249]
Total: [925]
Techmarine & friends go with the Crusader Squad to cross the board playing KTA and generally messing about a bit. Same thing for the Reclusiarch's Biker Buddies. If you want fire support, look elsewhere, the purpose of this list is to simply get stuck in and have fun. Yes, I know the Techmarine isn't
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