This is killing me. I spent seven months looking forward to taking my now illegal and broken in any case Deep Strike list to NOVA 2012. I've got a few games under my belt and everything with how I play Black Templar is off a bit. OTOH, the only change to my Necron list is a losing a few extra Cryptek, Scarabs and a Spyder to fit in a pair of Night Scythes. This is the same basic list that I've been undefeated with for the last several months in solo play. I've been beaten twice in team play, but in both cases I crippled both of my opponents singlehandedly while my partner was focusing more on not being tabled. Looking over the models to be built/finished, painting to be done and other features, plus my limited time to do that and practice with a list, I'm stuck.
Yes, I have at this moment four potential BT lists that cover the nerfs (which may be balanced by other things, but for my purposes they are still nerfs) and look like winning lists, but they are distinctly different builds. In some cases I have to buy even more models than I already have in prep for 6th because other than some actual Marines, Dreadnoughts and Terminators, there is little overlap between them. Part of me wants to say to heck with it and slap together something fast and easy and if it goes 0-8 then it goes 0-8. I doubt it would do that badly, in eight games even my triple LRC list should find something to beat, but I'd prefer to put my best foot forward and if I did slap together a list and it did do badly, I know I'd just shelve the entire army. Still love them, but not want to do anything with them.
Black Templars were my third army choice, the first two were Sisters and Necrons. Sisters were just too darn expensive to buy (and still are). In fact, I was ready to field a BT with Sister allied army until I saw that incomprehensible ruling that BT and only BT among the Imperial forces are "desperate allies" with Sisters. My Necrons got put aside when I realized that "consensus" RAI(nterpreted) vs. RAW were set to neutralize a couple of potentially viable old Necron builds. Unless I wanted to try Destroyer Wing and that, like Sisters, was out of my reach at that time. So, I poked around a bit and found the Black Templars and have been here ever since. I read Marshal Laeroth's Drop Pod listing and it hit me, there was a list! Hard to master, tricky to implement, but it could kick some serious arse! So I modified it, made it my own and it does kick. The only reason I quit playing it earlier this year was so that I wouldn't get stale on it by the time summer got here and I needed to play for speed before NOVA. Of course, that gave me practice time on the Necrons....
Yes, part of this is related to old vs. new, but between Marshal Laeroth and some dead time, I'd even come to the point of seeing a mech list I liked and could live with for Black Templars. I had all the models for it done and was ready to play at the beginning of July when GW dropped the bomb that 6th was coming out early.
Oh, I've tried. I've avoided trying to remember that I just need two models (three if I want "Canoptek" instead of the old Spyder) to field my Necrons, but the only quick way out for Templars is to buy one more LRC for the triple list, well, except for the fact that then I'd have to buy a couple more scout boxes too. I'll even have the stuff to field a biker list by the end of the week. Heck if GW did follow my joke and delete the line that raise SS on our Assault Marines from 3 to 15 points I could field thirty of those. All of that takes assembly and painting. True, both armies do share in the end a fairly simple paint scheme, but the Necrons are less demanding. In fact, if it wasn't for the fact that I had to finish my Immortal conversions (which I could ignore by going with bigger Warrior squads, I mean 13 Warriors vs 10 Immortals, which would still allow them to fit in the Night Scythes with two characters.... The need to reduce my Scarab swarm and lose one Spyder from the original list means I don't have to do more Scarab bases. Gah, bugger that, if I start in the next few days, I've plenty of time to do either army from scratch.
Back to the "avoiding", I lost my Black Templar codex for four days but since I have it virtually memorized I was good, at least on points costs. I keep trying to dump my Necron codex out of sight, but it keeps turning up, including the wife & son bringing it to me because I'd "misplaced it". (WHY? They almost always ignore where I leave books and don't remember where it is if I ask until we find it and then they say, "Oh yeah, I remember seeing it there."...) Also, lots of list sheets scattered about and guess which ones I keep turning up. The two of them compared to the dozen or so BT lists around.
<sigh> Of course, my son suggested I play Necrons (he is seven). I asked him while I was fixing him lunch if he wanted me to play Necrons so that if I got good with them I'd "love" by Black Templar less and let him have my Marine models to play with...
Black Templars were my third army choice, the first two were Sisters and Necrons. Sisters were just too darn expensive to buy (and still are). In fact, I was ready to field a BT with Sister allied army until I saw that incomprehensible ruling that BT and only BT among the Imperial forces are "desperate allies" with Sisters. My Necrons got put aside when I realized that "consensus" RAI(nterpreted) vs. RAW were set to neutralize a couple of potentially viable old Necron builds. Unless I wanted to try Destroyer Wing and that, like Sisters, was out of my reach at that time. So, I poked around a bit and found the Black Templars and have been here ever since. I read Marshal Laeroth's Drop Pod listing and it hit me, there was a list! Hard to master, tricky to implement, but it could kick some serious arse! So I modified it, made it my own and it does kick. The only reason I quit playing it earlier this year was so that I wouldn't get stale on it by the time summer got here and I needed to play for speed before NOVA. Of course, that gave me practice time on the Necrons....
Yes, part of this is related to old vs. new, but between Marshal Laeroth and some dead time, I'd even come to the point of seeing a mech list I liked and could live with for Black Templars. I had all the models for it done and was ready to play at the beginning of July when GW dropped the bomb that 6th was coming out early.
Oh, I've tried. I've avoided trying to remember that I just need two models (three if I want "Canoptek" instead of the old Spyder) to field my Necrons, but the only quick way out for Templars is to buy one more LRC for the triple list, well, except for the fact that then I'd have to buy a couple more scout boxes too. I'll even have the stuff to field a biker list by the end of the week. Heck if GW did follow my joke and delete the line that raise SS on our Assault Marines from 3 to 15 points I could field thirty of those. All of that takes assembly and painting. True, both armies do share in the end a fairly simple paint scheme, but the Necrons are less demanding. In fact, if it wasn't for the fact that I had to finish my Immortal conversions (which I could ignore by going with bigger Warrior squads, I mean 13 Warriors vs 10 Immortals, which would still allow them to fit in the Night Scythes with two characters.... The need to reduce my Scarab swarm and lose one Spyder from the original list means I don't have to do more Scarab bases. Gah, bugger that, if I start in the next few days, I've plenty of time to do either army from scratch.
Back to the "avoiding", I lost my Black Templar codex for four days but since I have it virtually memorized I was good, at least on points costs. I keep trying to dump my Necron codex out of sight, but it keeps turning up, including the wife & son bringing it to me because I'd "misplaced it". (WHY? They almost always ignore where I leave books and don't remember where it is if I ask until we find it and then they say, "Oh yeah, I remember seeing it there."...) Also, lots of list sheets scattered about and guess which ones I keep turning up. The two of them compared to the dozen or so BT lists around.
<sigh> Of course, my son suggested I play Necrons (he is seven). I asked him while I was fixing him lunch if he wanted me to play Necrons so that if I got good with them I'd "love" by Black Templar less and let him have my Marine models to play with...
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